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		<title>By: jyoti</title>
		<link>http://jdesignlab.com/life-in-gurgaon/traffic-management-in-gurgaon.html/comment-page-1#comment-2120</link>
		<dc:creator>jyoti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nishant...3-wheelers seem to have a strong lobby in Gurgaon or I don&#039;t know why else traffic cops posted at the Huda City Center don&#039;t manage to rein them in on their bad parking. Overcharging by 3-wheelers may be above the traffic dept&#039;s purview though.
One change to celebrate is that now the Gurgaon Traffic Police is listening to people through their Facebook page...so, go ahead and post your suggestions there too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nishant&#8230;3-wheelers seem to have a strong lobby in Gurgaon or I don&#8217;t know why else traffic cops posted at the Huda City Center don&#8217;t manage to rein them in on their bad parking. Overcharging by 3-wheelers may be above the traffic dept&#8217;s purview though.<br />
One change to celebrate is that now the Gurgaon Traffic Police is listening to people through their Facebook page&#8230;so, go ahead and post your suggestions there too.</p>
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		<title>By: nishant</title>
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		<dc:creator>nishant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please make a strict rules for three whellers (Autos)</description>
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		<title>By: jyoti</title>
		<link>http://jdesignlab.com/life-in-gurgaon/traffic-management-in-gurgaon.html/comment-page-1#comment-621</link>
		<dc:creator>jyoti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 08:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Anand,

In my 7-8 meetings over 2 years with the Gurgaon Traffic Department, I saw that the department intent was noble, enough traffic personnel were inducted into the workforce but I didn&#039;t see clarity on the do&#039;s and don&#039;ts for drivers on Gurgaon roads, nor did I see motivation in the traffic personnel to enforce good driving practices in a consistent way. Traffic lights, poor state of roads, missing street lights or road signage are big issues that aren&#039;t being addressed in a cohesive way either.

I wouldn&#039;t trust any email to reach the Traffic dept although a gmail id was provided to TOs. I&#039;d just direct you to the phone numbers on http://gurgaon.haryanapolice.gov.in/template/contactus.htm. DCP/Traffic&#039;s office can be called for current email ids. Additionally, ADC, Gurgaon Praveen Kumar would be an officer to give suggestions to. The Traffic Observer Coordinator, Abhay Jain 9810009988 would help understand the system and how one can get one&#039;s voice across.

All the best, Jyoti</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Anand,</p>
<p>In my 7-8 meetings over 2 years with the Gurgaon Traffic Department, I saw that the department intent was noble, enough traffic personnel were inducted into the workforce but I didn&#8217;t see clarity on the do&#8217;s and don&#8217;ts for drivers on Gurgaon roads, nor did I see motivation in the traffic personnel to enforce good driving practices in a consistent way. Traffic lights, poor state of roads, missing street lights or road signage are big issues that aren&#8217;t being addressed in a cohesive way either.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t trust any email to reach the Traffic dept although a gmail id was provided to TOs. I&#8217;d just direct you to the phone numbers on <a href="http://gurgaon.haryanapolice.gov.in/template/contactus.htm" rel="nofollow">http://gurgaon.haryanapolice.gov.in/template/contactus.htm</a>. DCP/Traffic&#8217;s office can be called for current email ids. Additionally, ADC, Gurgaon Praveen Kumar would be an officer to give suggestions to. The Traffic Observer Coordinator, Abhay Jain 9810009988 would help understand the system and how one can get one&#8217;s voice across.</p>
<p>All the best, Jyoti</p>
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		<title>By: anand rao</title>
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		<dc:creator>anand rao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 04:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I tried writing to the DCP of traffic the email bounced. I tried calling the phone is never available. 
I have worked on some plan for Shankar Chowk as I work at IBM Daksh at Infinity Towers. I would be more than willing to implement the solutions with the Trafiic personel. I can easily show proof of concept onany of the recommendations. 
If they are not convinced they can revert to their existing methods. My number 9810203219.  I just need some one who is in charge to listen and be willing to try it out.

I found this site as I was seraching for the traffic contacts.

Thanks
Anand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I tried writing to the DCP of traffic the email bounced. I tried calling the phone is never available.<br />
I have worked on some plan for Shankar Chowk as I work at IBM Daksh at Infinity Towers. I would be more than willing to implement the solutions with the Trafiic personel. I can easily show proof of concept onany of the recommendations.<br />
If they are not convinced they can revert to their existing methods. My number 9810203219.  I just need some one who is in charge to listen and be willing to try it out.</p>
<p>I found this site as I was seraching for the traffic contacts.</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Anand</p>
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		<title>By: Rakesh</title>
		<link>http://jdesignlab.com/life-in-gurgaon/traffic-management-in-gurgaon.html/comment-page-1#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>Rakesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 04:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jyoti,

How was your meeting on 29th. What was the outcome, Do you see any light, Please share your thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jyoti,</p>
<p>How was your meeting on 29th. What was the outcome, Do you see any light, Please share your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: RAAKESH KHURANA</title>
		<link>http://jdesignlab.com/life-in-gurgaon/traffic-management-in-gurgaon.html/comment-page-1#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>RAAKESH KHURANA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not know much about Gurgaon but the roundabouts are not suitable for heavy traffic that too for Indian traffic and Indian drivers where licenses are delivered at home with out even showing the face to the officer. It is indeed a dismal situation. My idea was to have corporate sponsored quality marshals not like a typical khaki clad malnourished un educated, poorly paid  lot from our villages. These are the poor guys who just stand there to earn their livelihood by risking their lives, Certainly not,  I had seen some college going students doing some traffic management in C P. There is a urgent need to carry out the traffic studies and then look for holistic longterm solutions. I think RITES have got expertise in this area, Yo may speak to Mr Sachdeva DGM in RITES. There is a solution to the problem. Traffic volumes are far greater in US and UK but these are managed properly, We Indians are very simple, bit   of strong enforcement will yield the quicker result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know much about Gurgaon but the roundabouts are not suitable for heavy traffic that too for Indian traffic and Indian drivers where licenses are delivered at home with out even showing the face to the officer. It is indeed a dismal situation. My idea was to have corporate sponsored quality marshals not like a typical khaki clad malnourished un educated, poorly paid  lot from our villages. These are the poor guys who just stand there to earn their livelihood by risking their lives, Certainly not,  I had seen some college going students doing some traffic management in C P. There is a urgent need to carry out the traffic studies and then look for holistic longterm solutions. I think RITES have got expertise in this area, Yo may speak to Mr Sachdeva DGM in RITES. There is a solution to the problem. Traffic volumes are far greater in US and UK but these are managed properly, We Indians are very simple, bit   of strong enforcement will yield the quicker result.</p>
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		<title>By: jyoti</title>
		<link>http://jdesignlab.com/life-in-gurgaon/traffic-management-in-gurgaon.html/comment-page-1#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>jyoti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raakesh, in the last year or so, we&#039;ve seen much increase in the number of traffic personnel all around the city -- but they could be more motivated to be vigilant and interested in their work.  Most traffic-laden roundabouts show 2-3 traffic cops but their presence doesn&#039;t deter violators because of their own lax body-language. It must be acknowledged that they have a tough job to be out all day in the heat and rain but I wish they looked more involved and decisive. So, we don&#039;t need more marshals, we just need those present to better regulate the traffic. And, yes it would help to have volunteers among TOs from RITES or other bodies to organise critical points with constructive inputs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raakesh, in the last year or so, we&#8217;ve seen much increase in the number of traffic personnel all around the city &#8212; but they could be more motivated to be vigilant and interested in their work.  Most traffic-laden roundabouts show 2-3 traffic cops but their presence doesn&#8217;t deter violators because of their own lax body-language. It must be acknowledged that they have a tough job to be out all day in the heat and rain but I wish they looked more involved and decisive. So, we don&#8217;t need more marshals, we just need those present to better regulate the traffic. And, yes it would help to have volunteers among TOs from RITES or other bodies to organise critical points with constructive inputs.</p>
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		<title>By: RAAKESH KHURANA</title>
		<link>http://jdesignlab.com/life-in-gurgaon/traffic-management-in-gurgaon.html/comment-page-1#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>RAAKESH KHURANA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jyoti
Nice to read your thoughts, yes to start with ask these big developers, corporate houses to sponsor good traffic management studies at the point of congestions or at the bottlenecks, At least ask them to sponsor some of good traffic marshals so they are there during peak hours and help in regulating the traffic and manage the traffic to the best, this experiment will give real insight about the problem and then you can make your recommendation for improvements, may be improvement in physical capacities of network or by just optimizing the signal timings or by just putting the traffic on right lanes. Once you start observing these trends you will automatically find the solution, The best way could be to video graph these flows during morning and evening peaks and then analyze the reason of flow breakdown or queue formation, it is nothing just simply analyzing any problem, you will find the solution. Hope I made my point correctly. Rest till the next mail. 
Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jyoti<br />
Nice to read your thoughts, yes to start with ask these big developers, corporate houses to sponsor good traffic management studies at the point of congestions or at the bottlenecks, At least ask them to sponsor some of good traffic marshals so they are there during peak hours and help in regulating the traffic and manage the traffic to the best, this experiment will give real insight about the problem and then you can make your recommendation for improvements, may be improvement in physical capacities of network or by just optimizing the signal timings or by just putting the traffic on right lanes. Once you start observing these trends you will automatically find the solution, The best way could be to video graph these flows during morning and evening peaks and then analyze the reason of flow breakdown or queue formation, it is nothing just simply analyzing any problem, you will find the solution. Hope I made my point correctly. Rest till the next mail.<br />
Regards</p>
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		<title>By: jyoti</title>
		<link>http://jdesignlab.com/life-in-gurgaon/traffic-management-in-gurgaon.html/comment-page-1#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>jyoti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Raakesh,

I agree that much of the chaos in the city is because of multiple developers who&#039;ve attempted at creating islands that appear self-sufficient in one look but don&#039;t make living in the city any easier. It&#039;s upsetting to see ad hoc solutions being put in practice because as you say, the basic planning hasn&#039;t gone into propping up malls and complexes. No public transport, no names for roads, poorly constructed roads make traffic management an impossible exercise. The planning body HUDA appears inaccessible so in a TO&#039;s role, for now we can only help resolve very immediate issues. I&#039;ll be in touch to think through any specific challenges that can be remedied through brainstorming...many thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Raakesh,</p>
<p>I agree that much of the chaos in the city is because of multiple developers who&#8217;ve attempted at creating islands that appear self-sufficient in one look but don&#8217;t make living in the city any easier. It&#8217;s upsetting to see ad hoc solutions being put in practice because as you say, the basic planning hasn&#8217;t gone into propping up malls and complexes. No public transport, no names for roads, poorly constructed roads make traffic management an impossible exercise. The planning body HUDA appears inaccessible so in a TO&#8217;s role, for now we can only help resolve very immediate issues. I&#8217;ll be in touch to think through any specific challenges that can be remedied through brainstorming&#8230;many thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: RAAKESH KHURANA</title>
		<link>http://jdesignlab.com/life-in-gurgaon/traffic-management-in-gurgaon.html/comment-page-1#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>RAAKESH KHURANA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jyoti. 
I feel sorry about not seeing your blog for quite some time. I do not live in Gurgaon neither I aspire to be TO because I do not know the traffic and road conditions in Gurgaon except what I read in newspaper, One thing is for sure the  real estate developers have made the mess there. The development approvals for  malls, shopping complexes and office complexes have been made without any regard or consideration to traffic or trip generations. I see there is lack of traffic planning and traffic management. Lack of  reliable and quality public transport, excessive dependence of personalized vehicles have made the situation even worse. It is suggested people use car pool, employers of each complex make a travel plan for their employees to discourage car use. New building plans to be approved after getting the approvals from traffic and highway authorities, effective transport and environment impact   assessment due to traffic growth to be ensured. The huge multistories along the busy corridors to be avoided, Higher density without supportive    public transport is bound to crate traffic chaos, A holistic planning is need of hour, earn carbon foot print to reduce developmental cost. Enforce the traffic rules with flaw less gadgets rather than human beings, optimize signal timings, carry out the network modeling. There is a lot more can be thought and done provided we need to arouse the passion for it. 
Any way too much for a day. If you find any value in above or want to discuss further you may call me at {number}.
Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jyoti.<br />
I feel sorry about not seeing your blog for quite some time. I do not live in Gurgaon neither I aspire to be TO because I do not know the traffic and road conditions in Gurgaon except what I read in newspaper, One thing is for sure the  real estate developers have made the mess there. The development approvals for  malls, shopping complexes and office complexes have been made without any regard or consideration to traffic or trip generations. I see there is lack of traffic planning and traffic management. Lack of  reliable and quality public transport, excessive dependence of personalized vehicles have made the situation even worse. It is suggested people use car pool, employers of each complex make a travel plan for their employees to discourage car use. New building plans to be approved after getting the approvals from traffic and highway authorities, effective transport and environment impact   assessment due to traffic growth to be ensured. The huge multistories along the busy corridors to be avoided, Higher density without supportive    public transport is bound to crate traffic chaos, A holistic planning is need of hour, earn carbon foot print to reduce developmental cost. Enforce the traffic rules with flaw less gadgets rather than human beings, optimize signal timings, carry out the network modeling. There is a lot more can be thought and done provided we need to arouse the passion for it.<br />
Any way too much for a day. If you find any value in above or want to discuss further you may call me at {number}.<br />
Regards</p>
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